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Sunshine
1678 posts
Dec 15, 2009
5:14 PM
at the very end of the song, the lyrics are:

"But it's easy to talk so loud - Now that Mr. Watson's gone from Chatham Bend"

1) who is Mr. Watson

2) where is Chatham Bend

thank you in advance for your divulging of your knowledge Mofro trivia!!!
:o)
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"If you've never seen us before, don't be bashful - sing along from start to finish........and dance & feel good.....there's enough shit in the world, let it all out...........Brighter Daaaaays...."
mofrofans1
Admin
2992 posts
Dec 15, 2009
6:57 PM
skot is amongst the mighty kings of Mofro trivia.

My trophy wife read it last year. Said she really enjoyed it. (JJ has it on his recommended reading list on the website.)
Sunshine
1686 posts
Dec 15, 2009
7:13 PM
You guys are not only amazing but too kind to share your knowledge!! Gregg and I were driving just yesterday and we were listening to that song and Gregg wondered out loud "Who is Mr. Watson and I wonder where Chatham Bend is..."

I told him that I would get right on it!

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!
:o)
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"If you've never seen us before, don't be bashful - sing along from start to finish........and dance & feel good.....there's enough shit in the world, let it all out...........Brighter Daaaaays...."
mofrofans1
Admin
2993 posts
Dec 15, 2009
7:57 PM
Like I said, skot's the man.
UHollis
260 posts
Dec 16, 2009
5:25 AM
those books, and there are three of them, if i recall, should be among the required reading for all mofro fans.

seriously good shit there

cross creek required reading also.

let me say this again another way, Read Killing Mr Watson. You will be tested.
TrophyWife1
48 posts
Dec 16, 2009
8:00 AM
"Killing Mr. Watson" was a fascinating book. While technically a work of fiction, the book is historically accurate in many ways, including most of the main characters, locations, traditions, and accounts of historical events. Edgar J. Watson was a real person, as were the Smallwoods, the Langfords, and even Chevalier. The author spent approx. 20 yrs researching and writing about E.J. Watson (this book is one of 3 Mattheissen wrote about Watson).

In "Killing Mr. Watson," Mattheissen vivdily portrays what was a often harsh existence in Ten Thousand Islands. While the main crux of the plot is the mystery of E.J. Watson, the book also raises many social and economic issues, and most poignantly, the spoiling of the environment. He recounts the beginnings of what Florida has become today, and this book makes you long the Florida of yesterday.

And yes, Cross Creek is another wonderful step back in time in Florida's history.

Both of these books give one pause to consider one's surroundings, and the impact we all have on the land that sustains us. Lands near and far are affected by our lifestyle, our choices, and whether or not we take steps to preserve and nurture the earth. So many of JJ's lyrics also reflect on a disappearing land and culture, and help to preserve a history of what once was, and I can tell you that listening to Ten Thousand Islands AFTER reading Mr. Watson really gave the song greater meaning for me.
Sunshine
1689 posts
Dec 16, 2009
10:10 AM
Thanks again to everyone's input! I have now ordered this book for Gregg (and me too) for a gift this Christmas, look forward to reading and then really appreciating 10,000 Islands!!!
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"If you've never seen us before, don't be bashful - sing along from start to finish........and dance & feel good.....there's enough shit in the world, let it all out...........Brighter Daaaaays...."
UHollis
261 posts
Dec 16, 2009
12:23 PM
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=2700+N+Ocean+Blvd,+Boca+Raton,+Palm+Beach,+Florida+33431&ll=25.709194,-81.246836&spn=0.007182,0.009645&t=h&z=17

^Welcome to the Watson Homestead.^

I may have to get these books back out and reread em.
Delerious Tyme
556 posts
Dec 16, 2009
2:34 PM
The Microsoft maps, or I guess Bing.com now labels it Ten Thousand Islands as well as, labeling where Chatham Bend is.

Although, UHollis, being the man, as I have always claimed him to be, has Chatham Bend linked up through Google maps.

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Delerious Tyme

Mofro for life in Arizona
The Rhythm Room is exactly that when the boys are kicking it here.
"Walking on Moonlight in the Day."
Delerious Tyme
558 posts
Dec 16, 2009
2:40 PM
http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=25.82295705728059~-81.37370300335152&lvl=12&sty=r&sp=Point.n8jc8r86w8t4_Chatham%20Bend____~Point.n9615b86b571_Ten%20Thousand%20Islands____

If my link works, both are labeled there, Ten Thousand Islands and Chatham Bend to the lower right.... Hopefully.


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Delerious Tyme

Mofro for life in Arizona
The Rhythm Room is exactly that when the boys are kicking it here.
"Walking on Moonlight in the Day."

Last Edited by on Dec 16, 2009 2:42 PM
swkelley
576 posts
Dec 16, 2009
5:46 PM
Funny you brought this up, Sunshine. I just started reading Killing Mr Watson for the second time a few nights ago. Been several years since I read it and found the book while unpacking a box in the spare bedroom last week. Great read!

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any groove is reason to move

Last Edited by on Dec 16, 2009 5:47 PM
UHollis
262 posts
Dec 17, 2009
5:40 AM
recalling a alot of things as i sat at the homebrew shop last night talking sofla outdoors with peeps, like that there are still florida panthers and bear down here, as well as ocelot, i remember JJ saying that Robert Randolph told him the Edgar Watson story and gave him that book to read. something like that.

Stan, do you remember that?
SaNdMaN
97 posts
Dec 17, 2009
6:19 AM
I hope it's not too late to add this one to my Christmas list! Thanks for asking the question Sunshine and the same to TW and everyone else for the enticing book reviews!
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SaNdMaN

"If it beats all get out then do it again ..."
Sunshine
1695 posts
Dec 17, 2009
2:40 PM
sandman I ordered the book on 12-16 from blue ridge books and I picked it up o 12-17, quick service!!

I can't wait to read it, after Gregg of course, well maybe...:o)

Uhollis you brew beer too? Gregg and I used to brew awl the time and now maybe once a year. We have made an amazing imperial oatmeal stout that would knock your socks off!!

One year, we made Reindeer Beer!! it had orange and ginger!
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"If you've never seen us before, don't be bashful - sing along from start to finish........and dance & feel good.....there's enough shit in the world, let it all out...........Brighter Daaaaays...."
swkelley
577 posts
Dec 18, 2009
5:26 AM
Hollis...yeah, I remember JJ talking about that and I think you are correct about Robert Randolph telling him about the book.

Sunshine....nice to see another homebrewer on the list. Although I haven't brewed in a couple years (all my equipment is still in Pensacola), a friend and I used to brew EVERY weekend. We had about 40 carboys and kegs (the old coca-cola stainless steel kegs), a fridge with 3 taps and even a carburator (for beer, you submerse it in ice)....you'd run warm beer through it and ice cold beer came out the other side.....mmmmmmm, beeeeeerrrr!! We brewed for about 15 years and I really miss it. I told my wife about a month ago that we need to drive back to Pcola and get all my equipment...but we'd have to rent a mini-van. Did you use kits, extracts or did you mash? We started out with extracts for about 6 months, then it was all mashing after that! We used to also make some KILLER meads!!


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any groove is reason to move

Last Edited by on Dec 18, 2009 5:27 AM
tox
108 posts
Dec 18, 2009
5:51 AM
One chilly morning a few years back I was zooming through 10K Isls for a photo shoot, and JJ's song and the book Killing Mr. W popped into my head. Just then I looked at the captain and asked him if he knew where Edgar Watson was buried. Before he could answer, we ran aground.
I'll never forget that moment - first light, dead still with a light fog, an unusually high tide. The captain looked around and said, "Right here."

Sure enough, we had beached on the key where EW was initially buried. Spooky, and cool.

By the way, that captain beached us two more times that morning, and will forever only be referred to as "Captain RunAground." Nice guy, but goddang he was a bit clueless about navigation...
SaNdMaN
100 posts
Dec 18, 2009
6:49 AM
Very cool story tox. Thanks for sharing! Did you take any pics?
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SaNdMaN

"If it beats all get out then do it again ..."
SaNdMaN
101 posts
Dec 18, 2009
6:51 AM
P.S. I ordered all three books, plus "Shadow Country" last night. Should keep me busy for a few days :-)
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SaNdMaN

"If it beats all get out then do it again ..."
Sunshine
1700 posts
Dec 18, 2009
8:12 AM
wow stan, you were indeed serious about brewing!! we have only 3 carboys and toyed with getting a carburator..we do have a spare fridge downstairs with a tap..used to pull on it often...hmmmmm......

started with kits and then progress to trying to mimic guiness, red stripe, we have a brew shop in asheville that has the recipes for them. We did tried to mimic Blue Moon and it was soooo smooth.

aynd tox, what an eerie but amazing story!!
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"If you've never seen us before, don't be bashful - sing along from start to finish........and dance & feel good.....there's enough shit in the world, let it all out...........Brighter Daaaaays...."


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